How would you describe yourself? Who is Joanna?
I've spent the last 2 years finding out! I'm a bit of an idealist,
trying to make myself a better person and having some impact on
the world too.
Working in the City (London’s business district) for 5 years
helped me know what I am definitely not. Since quitting I've been
playing with ideas on what my small part in changing the world
will be.
I am passionate about the idea of healthy people making up
healthy societies making up a healthy world. And using the word
'health' in the broadest possible way. I get real fulfillment
working one-to-one, which is what my work is now allowing me to
do.
What are you working on now?
I’m studying to be an ayurvedic physician, which is traditional
Indian medicine. It’ll take 3 years, of which I’ve now done one
year. At the same time, I’m teaching yoga in London, running
Dorset well-being retreats and Indian cooking workshops.
My latest venture is combining yoga with tennis, running
zentennisyoga holidays in Tuscany! I'm also back at art school
one day a week focusing on ceramics. Leaving my job in the City
has really allowed the creativity to flow!
What has been your journey to what you are doing now?
I left uni with no idea of what to do. I went to IBM, but didn’t
want to be another employee identified by a code. I then went to a
conservation charity to do communications work, which was followed
by going to Madagascar to look after an ecotourism project.
I came back and followed my parent’s advice, and went into
Social Responsible Investing (SRI). 5 years later I was still
there, it was a great job, I was changing the world at a great
salary, and I knew that had I written down my dream job 10 years
before, it would have been what I was doing.
4 years in, things began to change. I realised that most
companies were doing their environmental and social reports due to
pressure not because they wanted to do it. Everything had to be
translated into money – but how do you do that with human rights
for example?
The idealist in me got more frustrated. I literally couldn’t
stomach it, and had many physical side effects – and I learned to
listen to my body as my mind was too confused.
A lot of people around me kept on saying: don’t leave with an
abyss in front, have a bridge. But with an all consuming job, I
didn’t have time to think of what to do next.
I did know I wanted to do a yoga teacher training course so I
did. Yoga led to ayurveda, which is the healthcare system derived
from yoga philosophy. Ayurveda is now at tipping point in the UK–
science of life – totally holistic health system.
More recently, I went back to Austria for an ayurvedic
nutrition course – learning how to cook balanced meals. It’s all
tailored to the individual, and it’s refreshing to have these
differences between us all acknowledged.
There was a lot of synchronicity in all this: The Mayur
Ayurvedic University of Europe had started this course I’m now on,
but I missed the deadline by two weeks. I went for an interview
anyway, and ended up starting lectures at the end of the
interview!
I’d previously enrolled on a Master’s degree at Bath University
on Responsibility and Business Practice. When I started I was
still working in the City and it was the right thing for me. But
by the time I had quit my job, so much had changed.
I 've learnt that however much you invest in something when
it’s time to walk away, it’s time to walk away – don’t carry on
for the sake of another bit of paper or prinicpal. It had provided
the inspiration to quit my job, and some structure in the
difficult period afterwards.
At Bath I was researching ways for people to fully be
themselves, many people are not living their lives to the full and
are in need of a spot of rehydration if you like, to be able to
bloom and reach their full potential.
I wanted to find a job that allowed me to achieve this for
starters. It’s actually sometimes harder work to suppress part of
what’s you!
What was the turning point?
I really thought that SRI was one of the key ways to change
society. I was convinced that changing companies from the 'top
down' was the way to go.
It was the Master’s that really got me thinking: we explored
alternative ways of looking at economics, GDP as a measurement of
growth and current structures of shareholder ownership. I became
instantly disillusioned.
My values also started to change. I was surrounded by people
whose primary focus was money. I didn’t feel they were very
fulfilled integrated human beings, and after five years this made
me depressed.
However, I loved my immediate team. The one thing that I really
miss is the social side, playing jokes on each other, being human
– teaching yoga can be difficult for this but humour can be
brought in everywhere of course!
I had already tried to resign once before, a year before I
actually left. My boss told me to go away so I went to Barcelona
for a few days, came back and thought maybe things weren't so bad?
After all it’s scary to walk away when you are being paid well in
a 'dream job'.
But things just got worse, leading me to ask for a 4 day week.
Nobody without a baby had done this before. They took 4 months to
come to a decision, and by this point I had decided to quit - the
week they agreed to the 4 day week.
I realised that I had aligned myself a lot to my work, and
talked a lot about it outside of work. And when I quit and people
asked me what I do, I’d say: nothing. I identified myself with my
work – I ate, walked and talked SRI. And I wondered: how am I
going to recreate myself?
The City was a particularly unhealthy place for me. I’m prone
to speeding up more and more, and then I have a mini energy
breakdown. Upon reflection, the City was the worse place I could
have worked in... I had insomnia for four years - now I sleep like
a baby – your body tells you what’s going on and sleep’s a good
indicator.
How are you feeling now?
Very happy with where I’m am at, and where I'm going. My main
focus now is on fostering ways for humans to be happy within
themselves, only then will we be able to truly respect others and
the planet.
I do miss working in a team, and I’m talking to various think
tanks about 2 day/week research work, I think it’s a basic human
need to work in groups, and I miss the social element in my work.
Even though I’m happy, it’s taken a while for my family to come
aboard. I’m not expecting instant support – and I’ve learned that
even though you are sure, it’s hard to have people on board right
away as well. My sister is now training to be a yoga teacher as
well - my mum is wondering what exactly she did?!
How do you see the future?
I know I can throw myself into things passionately, and then get
bored in 5 years time. I’ve realised that this isn’t my last
chance at education, as life is a classroom.
I’m very conscious of holding myself back, having fun, being
more balanced about work and life. I find that with studying
Ayurveda and teaching yoga, my work-life balance is a lot more
difficult to manage.
I’m learning to rest when I need it, work when I have the
energy. I laugh a lot more these days. Sometimes you need a bit
more time to appreciate the funny side of life. Before I think I
was often too busy running around to notice all the funny things
happening around us.
Would you do anything differently?
Definitely, although I have no regrets about how things have
happened.
I would have left my job when I first quit, as that last year
was not a happy one and I wasn’t a joy to work with, even though I
am still good friends with my old team.
I would have challenged my family less. They were concerned
about the spiritual realm with yoga and ayurvedic medicine – and I
guess I would have listened to their concerns and tried to
reassure them rather than challenging them when they challenged
me.
When I left, I told people I was taking a 'sabbatical’ so my
parents were holding out that I would go back to the City – so I
now feel it would have been nice to be clear to others that it was
a permanent sabbatical from the City! You just don't know what
life has in store, taking it all week by week is so important.
My mom found it hard that I didn’t know what I was doing from
week to week. It was terrifying for them, they wanted to know, and
when my plans changed, they couldn’t cope with them, even though I
thought it was all exciting. So I would’ve kept a lot more for my
self...
What advice would you give to other people in similar
situations as you were in?
* Take at least 20 minutes quiet time out of each day to reflect
and learn to listen to inner guidance – we live in such a noisy,
busy society that it’s hard to tune into your own intuition and
find out what’s right for you. I’ve found this practise helps me
make big decisions. It’s easy to listen to others advice, but
tuning into your own inner voice, can be the most difficult.
* Save up some money so you can play around a bit with ideas and
not feel pressurised to rush into the next thing that comes along
* Don’t expect instant support from your family & friends who may
see it as 'throwing it all away'. But do find some kindred spirits
who have done something similar to share what you are going
through with.
* If you haven’t decided what you want to do, it’s worth having a
couple of years working in the ‘mainstream’ – as it’s good to
relate to many worlds – and it’s good to know what stresses and
strains people come from. Later, if people give you a hard time
about being in a slightly more alternative career, you can say
you've done both!