How would you describe yourself? Who is Márton?
I’m finding it hard to define in a sentence or two. It’s a set of
values and feelings that determine my direction.
Close friends describe me as someone with a big heart. I love
to be there for others, to work for others, not from a place of
altruism, but because I get a kick out of enabling others to
believe in themselves, to achieve things.
I also enjoy getting my hands dirty. I’m passionate about
looking beyond pure profit and rationalism and about going big.
Hence as I’m also passionate about Hungary (my home) and there
definitely seems to be room for improvement in how the country and
her people are, my vision could be described as “realizing
Hungary’s potential”. Don’t ask me how and when I’m going to
achieve it, but I’m working on it.
What are you working on now?
I’m currently working in a leadership organization called
Common Purpose. We aim to develop civic leadership across the
globe. My role is to ‘sell’ the idea abroad. We aim to improve the
way society works by expanding the vision, decision-making ability
and influence of all kinds of leaders, from all walks of life.
We bring together people from all backgrounds, cultures,
disciplines and sectors. The aim is to improve their capacity to
lead and for them to work more effectively together to build a
more active - and cohesive - society. This is a powerful and
timely combination, given the increasing recognition in both the
developed and developing world that complex problems cannot be
solved by organisations or agencies acting alone.
I develop the programme in countries where it doesn’t exist
yet. My focus is Germany and Hungary. My role is to create local
ownership for the idea, to get backing from all the sectors and
key people and to raise start-up funds. It’s my role to get every
single side on board, and do the pre-work of finding local
champions and multipliers to make the programmes happen. This
includes meeting very high- powered people, such as CEO’s,
ex-President’s, Mayor’s, etc, which is amazing fun (and sometimes
scary too!)
What has been your journey to what you are doing now?
Education always seemed very important to me, so I made sure that
I finished this. But after that, I wanted to get away from my
normal environment and to see what else is out there.
I was born and brought up in Hungary. In high school I got a
one-year scholarship to the US, in the beautiful, but also strange
state of Utah, the land of the Mormons. This was a complete
eye-opener for me. I had difficulties reintegrating to Hungary,
people and things just seemed different, and somehow we didn’t
speak the same language. I wanted to see more of what’s ‘out
there’, what other ways of being there is.
This is how I found
AIESEC at university, which has given me a fertile soil to
learn about the world, people and myself. After finishing my
degree I got an internship at Siemens in Germany for six months,
partially to be abroad, to be close to my then girlfriend, but
also to experience a huge multinational organization.
I soon realized that although the place was interesting, it
wasn’t a place where I could easily realize my dream of doing
something with developing people and doing this in Hungary.
I then came to the UK and helped to start up a company with a
strong social direction – providing education and community
development through building schools that would have a dramatic
effect on learning. Creating a small social enterprise, that is on
the other extreme to Siemens seemed just right and I did enjoy it
a lot.
However after about two years of doing this, I felt that
something was missing. It was a good job, very interesting people,
but I felt somewhat limited. I wanted something more international
and more direct contact with people.
I’ve known for a while that I want to go back and do something
with leadership back home. But like I said previously, I felt like
I needed to get out of the bubble and look outside in order to
know what I could do and how.
So I started talking with a variety of different people about
my ideas. I wasn’t sure what I wanted to do, but I decided that by
talking I could explore what possibilities there were. At one
networking meeting I met a guy from Common Purpose who told me
about the organisation. It sounded very much like an organisation
that would help me to put some of my thoughts into action.
So I emailed the person in charge of international expansion
and told her about my thoughts and what I’d like to do. We met and
continued chatting, but there were no job openings at the time.
At some point she asked me if I spoke German (which I did), as
they’d just got money to do some work in Germany. A few months
later I started working as the Development Director for Germany.
And now 18 months later it looks like we will have money for
Hungary as well, and I will start work there from January. This
hadn’t been part of their expansion plan, but as I expressed an
interest and commitment to do something there, it became a
fundraising priority as well.
So in a way I created this job for myself.
What were the questions you had? Any insecurities or doubts?
Sure, loads of them! I had difficulty getting some of my friends
and colleagues to understand why I’d want to change, why the
sudden urge. For them it was sudden, for me it had been “cooking”
for a while, internally. They kept on telling me: “You’ve got a
good job, there’re great opportunities here.”
At the same time my friends in Hungary asked me why would I
want to come back, “it much be so much better over there”.
I too wondered: Do I want to change? Is this the right thing to
do, or is it just that the grass is greener in the neighbour’s
garden? Will I regret it once I make the move?
But it felt right, and my sounding boards (the ones I really
trusted) advised me to go with what felt right.
It’s still all a bit organic and the end goal isn’t clear, so I
wonder how realistic I’m being. I’m also wondering how well these
types of ‘models’ transport themselves across countries. I ask
myself a lot: does this type of thing work in Hungary?
I have self-doubts, but I constantly want to develop, and I
make sure that my mentors in and outside of the company keep me
sane and asking the right questions to keep me realistic about the
progress I/we can make.
How are you feeling now? What questions do you have? How do
you see the future?
Good, positive, things seem to be working out. I have a growing
number of meetings, and people who we’re going to see the second
or third time saying: “so, you really are serious about doing
this.” We’re gathering momentum.
At some point it has felt daunting as the more I do talk about
it, the more I think: I’ll have to do this!
And I wonder often about the saying: You can’t be a prophet in
your own country. In some respects it is easier for me to do this
type of work in Germany. I’m on outsider and you can be more naïve
as an outsider and ask ‘stupid’ questions. But in Hungary people
expect me to know and I can’t test the ground as much.
Would you do anything differently?
Two things.
I’d speak without the fear of sounding stupid or caring about
what people think of my thoughts. They’re just thoughts.
This leads to the second thing: I’d change the terms that I
parted my old company with. I have loads of respect for my
previous boss, and because I worried about his opinion, about
“looking good” before him, I didn’t talk as openly about my ideas
and plans. This lead to a sour departure. I regret having lost him
as a friend, at least for a while.
What advice would you give to other people in similar
situations as you were in?
* Something I read on a friend’s signature once: “Dream – never be
afraid to dream, for the simplest dream can take you where your
heart yearns to go. If you dare to dream, and believe hard enough,
watch what happens.” It’s pretty much become my motto.
* If you have a vision, trust the process, it could take longer
than you expected/wanted
* Talk to people – you’re not going to do it alone, and they are
the ones who will help you make things happen
* Be ready for the waves – the successful day and the days filled
with doubts – that’s natural
* Keep your feet on the ground
* Live the moment for the moment, not the future, enjoying the
present is not easy when you are far from where you want to be –
but I’ve really learned that being ‘here’ is an important step to
getting ‘there’